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    Domyślnie Jeszcze raz Dragan

    znalazlem w sieci niby kompletny opis techniki retuszu swiatlem (efekt bardzo podobny do prac Dragana) ale niestety po angielsku

    czy ktos sprubuje przetlumaczyc, niby proste ale zawile

    Thanks you all for liking my image.

    I apologize for not posting it earlier, its just that that insomnia keeps you awake but doesnt let you think or work.
    I still cant embed my images but here is the link to the finished work:

    http://www.pbase.com/image/31708070

    Before I continue, here is my small disclaimer used before:

    Yeah, original picture is from gettyimages! PS work is mine. And its not the only picture, I will work on about 5 or 10. They are just to practice, so dont freak out on copyright issues, k?!
    What do his pictures look like?

    He told us to look very closely at his images. I still have to go back and look some more. But here is what I noticed.
    Muted colors - this means there is some sort of desaturation involved.

    Oil-painting feel. - He mentions he does some coloring. I think this is what adds to the picturesque feel.
    Extraordinary eyes - Very sharp. Almost all are light-colored

    On a photo.net post, he mentioned something about a blue layer nd how it makes imperfections come out.

    He also notes that there is layering involved, sometimes in soft mode, sometime just "sandwiched" together. This meant I had to explore different types of blending modes.
    Ok, so here is how I started.

    I have always been fascinated at how some people manage to make incredible black and whites with a beautiful tonal range. I have worked on it myself and thing Im not all that bad, not goog maybe, but not bad.

    I recently did a shoot, some self portraits. I turned them into black and white, adjusted contrast, levels, did come colorizing, etc. Here is what I ended up with:
    http://www.pbase.com/image/31716888

    So I thought to myself, How can I bring those tonal values to my color image?

    I made two copies of my background layer.



    On the top layer (I will term it BWLAYER) With all others turned off:

    I went to the channel mixer, clicked on monochrome, and adjusted the red, green and blue channels. I pulled back the bar on the red very close to 0, maybe even past 0, maybe around -10, -30. Anyway, its diferent in every case. I find that the green channel serves me well between -5 and 50. The Blue channel is always a positive, maybe from 30 to 120. It all depends on the image you are using, so I never follow the same numbers here. But I always strive for tonal values that look like my selfportrait. How much or less you want might be a matter of personal choice style.
    Turned on the bottom layer

    I experimented with blending modes and found that Multiply gave me good results, of course it made the image a bit dark, but nothing I couldnt fix later.
    I set opacity close to 100%

    I remembered the eyes needed to stand out, maybe with a slight hint of unnatural beauty but not too much that everybody can spot it.
    I added a mask to BWLAYER
    -filled it with black

    - I either choose a white brush with low opacity, or a grey one, sorry i cant remember.
    - I painted over the eyes to reveal some color.

    As you can see, this already looks similar to his effect.
    When I was happy I merged this layer with a background copy


    I dublicated the background layer again.
    -I deeply darkened all the image.

    -I created a mask for it, filled it with black and selectively painted with a white brush over the background. If I got some on his face, all I had to do was paint over his face (on the mask) with a black brush.

    -Ok, so now the BG is dark but its still does not have that gradient look to it. I will come back to this later.
    Layer Adjustments :

    Im going to artificialy bring back color to my image with color balance
    Color Balance (Blue):

    Clicked on shadows, and tweaked the blue to bring out more of that skin contrast. I was somewhere around 15.
    Set Blending mode to color.

    I turned off blue and created

    Color Balance (yellow):
    Midtones.
    Pushed yellow to about 40, and red to -8

    I wanted a very rich yellow/golden hue. It was more than I need, but remember, I was to combine this layer with the blue one. that would correct the colors.
    blending mode set to color

    I turned both layers (blue and yellow) on along with BWLAYER

    I thought It needed red, so I did this:
    Color Balance (red):
    Midtones.

    I adjusted until I brought back some life to him, not too much that I would ruin the skin contrast. It turned out to be something like +15 on the red.
    I need it to give a bit more of a pictureseque feel, so I did the following:

    Color Balance:
    Highlights.
    I pushed it much more than I needed.
    -Creted a mask, filled it with black

    -With a white brush set to low opacity, somewhat large and extremely feathered, I painted over the cheeks and nose. I also tried the chin and forehead but to me this looked more like rash.
    If it was too overpowering, I just reduced the opacity of the layer.

    Polishing up the image:

    Levels adjusment layer- Used to brighten the image (It was darkened when I used multiply in the BWLAYER, remeber)
    Brightness and contrast: just a bit of contrast. +4

    Fix the BG:
    I added another levels adjusment layer.
    -darkened the image again
    -Applyed a mask, filled it with black

    -Then used the radial gradient filter (from white to transparent) and painted over the mask.
    High pass filter:

    Used to sharpen the image. I found the the result was a bit to stark, so I changed the blending mode to soft light and reduced opacity to about 30.
    Done.

    Before and After:

    http://www.pbase.com/image/31713537

    I am doing more practice works, I will most them I finish them.
    Here is one:

    http://www.pbase.com/image/31723349

    one last thing:

    Thanks again

    I hope to see all of your results and learn from your personal approach and techniques!!!
    Cheers!!

    -Danny
    dobry sprzęt jeszcze lepszy fotograf tylko tyle potrzeba
    "galeria zdjęć artystycznych" www.bandit.digart.pl

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    Domyślnie

    Przemku możesz podać link do tego opisu?

    Ja mogę nieudacznie potłumaczyć, ale na pewno na forum są lepsi... W razie czego posuchy koleżeńskiej pomocy, potłumaczę wieczorem

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    czekam z niecierpiwością
    EOS 300 | EOS 300d black +BG-E1 | Tokina AT-X 287AF Pro SV 28-70 f/2.8 |Canon 50mm/1,8 | 18-55 USM | 430EX | Velbon DX-888 | pokrowiec Soligor M42 | Lowepro Orion Trekker | DigiMate II 40GB Image tank | Helios 1:2/58 M42 | MIR 1B 1:2,8/37 | jupiter 4/200 |

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    To i ja podlacze sie do czekania
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    kazdy czeka - nikt nie tłumaczy

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    Opis opisem, ale...
    Polecam nastepujaca STRONE

    Jest tam do sciagniecia wiele interesujacych akcji pod PS. W szczegolnosci warto zapoznac sie w kontekscie tematu niniejszego watku z akcjami:

    - Dragan Action

    oraz

    - Draganizer
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    wg mnie draganizer zdecydowanie lepszy

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    tak Draganizer ale to nie jest to!

    czy ktos to przetlumaczy??
    dobry sprzęt jeszcze lepszy fotograf tylko tyle potrzeba
    "galeria zdjęć artystycznych" www.bandit.digart.pl

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    nom ten draganizer całkiem fajny jest

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    czy ktos to przetlumaczy???????????????????????
    dobry sprzęt jeszcze lepszy fotograf tylko tyle potrzeba
    "galeria zdjęć artystycznych" www.bandit.digart.pl

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